Rex

Man Over Machine at the Excalibur

June 23, 2009

I have heard rumors for the last week or so (including information provided in the comment section of this very blog), and today has brought official word that the rumors are true.

After slightly less than a year in operation, the Excalibur Poker Room will return to “normal”.

In other words, human dealers will return, and the electronic PokerTek tables will leave.

I’ve played at the X electro-room on many occasions, and have always enjoyed it.

Excalibur Hotel and Casino

Excalibur Hotel and Casino

Excalibur Hotel and Casino

Excalibur Hotel and Casino

Excalibur Poker Room

Excalibur Poker Room

Electronic Poker Table at the Excalibur Poker Room

Electronic Poker Table at the Excalibur Poker Room

Electronic Poker Table at the Excalibur Poker Room

Electronic Poker Table at the Excalibur Poker Room

According to the Associated Press, “MGM Mirage officials say they found that players prefer live dealers to automatic tables.”

I suppose this statement comes as a surprise to nobody.  Almost everybody I know prefers human dealers.  Myself included.  With a caveat.

While I think it is kind of douchey to talk down to other players with an air of superiority, there is no escaping the fact that the electronic tables do, indeed, attract a large number of less experienced live players.  Note that I did not say “bad players” … but a fair percentage seem to have some discomfort in live games.

I have some theories on why this is.

First of all, I think many electro-players have “helper” applications at home that assist them while they are playing online poker.  I know that there are dozens of programs out there that will automatically calculate pot odds, hand odds, and some of these “helper” programs will outright tell a player what to do.

Bet X amount … call … fold … etc.  While I’ve never used these apps (living in Vegas means playing primarily in B&M rooms), I have heard stories about how sophisticated these tools can be.

Someone at an electro-table once told me that he had a program that actually played for him using some kind of artificial intelligence engine, and that he merely sat back and watched.  He claimed that he made a solid side income using this program.

Was he yanking my chain as poker players are apt to do?  Maybe.  But it wouldn’t surprise me if such a tool existed.

Perhaps because of a reliance on computer tools, electro-players at the X were often a little awkward and unsure at the live tables.

Think about a person that uses a pocket calculator all of his life for even the most basic calculations suddenly being given a test where he had to do all of the math in his head.  Naturally, he would struggle.  So would any of us.  You train your brain to do particular calculations out of sheer repetition, and those who have skipped this step will be a little behind.

Also, there was a social factor.  I’ve been in online poker rooms.  I’ve seen what goes on.  There is a lot of bodacious swagger and insults that fly by the chat screen.  There is a great deal of wang-swinging.

Online … a 5′2” 110lb twenty one year-old kid can be the biggest badass at the table.  He has eight supermodel girlfriends and once shot a man just to see him die.  At a real table, this just doesn’t fly.  People can see that you are a little Poindexter.  Also, people can’t reach through a monitor and ring your neck if you impugn the esteem of their maternal parent, but the 250lb guy sitting across from you at the PokerTek table can reach across and knock you senseless.  Perhaps because of this, some players would not utter a word for hours.

Because of the non-existence of tools, and the sometimes social-awkwardness of the electro-players, they did gain a reputation for being a bit more fishy and backward than the players at say … The Wynn.

Was this stereotype justified?  In my experience … sometimes.  I certainly sat down at a few tables to find three guys dressed in a hood and wizard glasses like some kind of Laak/Raymert hybrid while playing .50/$1 No Limit.

These guys honestly thought that the dilation of their pupils would give them away.  Of course, only the very  top .1% of poker players worldwide can accurately make a play based on pupillary constriction, and probably less than 1% of players can pick up on physical tells at all.

Those who do have this skill, are certainly not playing $.5/$1 poker.

Pros wear the gear because they are playing against other pros whom they have faced hundreds of times before, and are familiar with each other’s idiosyncrasies.  Pros are also pros.  They can pick up on physical tells better than “normals”.

If you simply join a $2/$5 cash game with random people at the Venetian, however, I promise that physical tells will not be an issue whatsoever.  The only exception would be if your opponent had Tourettes and screamed “My balls are on fire!” every time he got a premium hand.  You might want to fold to that guy.

So … yes.  Electro players were sometimes a bit easier to play against than felt players.  And this is the reason that they might very well be missed by some players.

If you are either a player or predator, all hope is not lost, though.

I’m not a huge fan of rumors since they turn out to be wrong 90% of the time.  There is one floating that interests me though, and since it’s not a big deal if it turns out to be wrong … I will go ahead and address it.

I have heard that PokerTek tables are not leaving Las Vegas.  They are simply being moved to another casino.  A casino which does not have a poker room at the moment.  The speculation is that the front-runner is New York New York.

This is Las Vegas, and nothing happens until it happens, but this move would make sense.

I don’t consider a casino to be completely full-service until it has a Poker Room and even though the MGM room is just across the pedestrian bridge, NYNY has always had a bit of a hole in this regards.

Were this to happen, it also means that the electro-players, and those who like to play against them will not have to travel very far to maintain their relationship.

Last but not least, this also means that several human dealers will be getting their jobs back.  How can that be anything other than positive?

This entire situation seems to be win-win for everyone involved, and I certainly hope that the transition back to felt is a successful one.

The Excalibur Poker Room is scheduled to “go human” on July 15th.

I look forward to playing it when it does … and hopefully, checking out the new digs of the PokerTek tables.

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5 Comments »

  1. Written by ColinFromLasVegas on June 23, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but this electro thingee ain’t gonna catch on. And the Excalibur is probably very wise to hang it up and throw it somewhere else.

    Mainly for the reason that people like to vacation here and gamble. And when they gamble, they like to have fun when they’re doing it. I’m not exactly sure how in the hell you can gamble, drink, talk crap, have fun and have a few laughs when you’re dealing with….um….no one. And if there is interaction, it’s all “canned” speak and/or a buncha lights flashing in your face.

    I would imagine that human interpersonal contact is all important when gambling. You wouldn’t catch a World Series Of Poker Tournament on ESPN where the players are playing against a machine. Viewers would be totally bored and switch it off and watch something else.

    Even you said it, Rex, in another recent article (and I totally agree). At the Strat. And you would have to agree with me that I would MUCH rather prefer having a dealer that talks…especially one with big chee chee lah lahs, showing a bare midriff with their tramp stamp showing on their lower back, a nice smile, loose morals, a bright shining personality along with a dark shady past, and…OH!…YEAH!…a good knowledge of the game. Well, not exactly all those together, but you know what I mean. In other words, you can’t beat the human interaction. It’s what makes it all fun, I would think. And anyways, somebody’s gotta be in charge to keep it all together.

  2. Written by alberta on June 24, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Why rip them all out? Stick a table on the other side of the casino away from the live poker tables. They could tweak the rake for the house. It would be the new version like 6/5 bj….(grins!)
    Paul

  3. Written by gowhitesox99 on June 24, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

    I love the elec tables. Lower stakes, no dealer tipping ( I always tip live dealers, but cringe when people dont) so I love elec tables. The players were horrible too, had it not been for bad beats I would have had sessions every time I played there.

    Tell em to wait a month, Im going aug 9-13… DAM DAM DAM DAM DAM

  4. Written by keith on June 25, 2009 at 3:33 am

    nice, friendly dealers are nice, but they don’t make or break the experience. The most important thing is when i win. I’ve been at tables where i’ve won, and i don’t think i had one conversation with the dealer.

    having shitty dealers WILL ruin the experience, but friendly dealers aren’t required. look at video poker – you can sit there for hours and the only human interaction you will have is “cocktail?” “sure, grey goose and club soda. thanks”

    i’ve played $2 video blackjack in Aruba and it wasn’t bad. they also had a $3 three card poker, but didn’t have time to check it out, but i’m sure it was the same experience as the video BJ.

  5. Written by Jimbo on June 26, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Just back from a trip and will be sad to see the tables go, always profitable, those internet types forget one thing, playing hour after hour in front of a screen is not good practice for live play, especially in the halfway house of Poker Pro. About the only regular PLO

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