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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.casinoguide.com/blogs/gambling/the-war-against-online-gambling-escalates/comment-page-1/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you put a frog into a pot of boiling water, he will quickly jump out.  However, if you place a frog into a pot of cool water and slowly turn up the heat, the frog will boil to death because each small increase in temperature will not represent a dramatic increase over the preceding temperature.

Simply put, if done slowly enough, a frog will willingly allow you to boil him.

This very same method is used by governments and corporations against large groups of humans to achieve goals that would be untenable to accomplish quickly.

Let&#039;s say a company or government (remember, governments are businesses and nothing else) wants to raise rates or taxes by 50%.  Simply raising them by 50% would provoke an outrage from the citizenry.  Instead, they raise it by 2% a month, and in little over two years, they have their increase with little resistance.  It&#039;s a means to an end.  It&#039;s a method to obtain things which would otherwise be unobtainable.

After all, what pathetic loser tightwad can&#039;t afford a 2% increase?  Sure you will get a little bitching and moaning along the way, but nobody is going to revolt over two percent.  It&#039;s two F&#039;ing percent, what&#039;s the big deal?

You can tweak the percentages and time, but you get the gist.  You get your 50%, and the people shut the hell up.

It&#039;s not just money, though.

Imagine a president standing up and declaring that the Bill of Rights were hereby null and void.  There might be riots in the streets.  It would be too messy.

It&#039;s much more sustainable to chip away at rights.  Take a minor right away here, another one there, claim it&#039;s for people&#039;s protection and security, and tell them that the rights are being taken away to keep them free.  Give them flags to wave and put singing competitions on television so they don&#039;t think about it too much.

If done slowly enough, over the course of time, you can turn a free country into a totalitarian police state, and the population will not only go along with it, but they might just cheer you along the way.

Thus, the frog in the boiling pot, frying pan, etc.

We are the &quot;frogs&quot;.  Once we get fully acclimated to the loss of a few minor and inconsequential rights (the right to play games online as an example), a few more minor rights will be taken away.  Then a few more.  Then a few more.

There won&#039;t be a mass outrcry, because the rights of only a small segment of the population will be taken each time.

Then end result will be the same, though.  An almost complete evisceration of civil liberties a/k/a &quot;boiled&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you put a frog into a pot of boiling water, he will quickly jump out.  However, if you place a frog into a pot of cool water and slowly turn up the heat, the frog will boil to death because each small increase in temperature will not represent a dramatic increase over the preceding temperature.</p>
<p>Simply put, if done slowly enough, a frog will willingly allow you to boil him.</p>
<p>This very same method is used by governments and corporations against large groups of humans to achieve goals that would be untenable to accomplish quickly.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say a company or government (remember, governments are businesses and nothing else) wants to raise rates or taxes by 50%.  Simply raising them by 50% would provoke an outrage from the citizenry.  Instead, they raise it by 2% a month, and in little over two years, they have their increase with little resistance.  It&#8217;s a means to an end.  It&#8217;s a method to obtain things which would otherwise be unobtainable.</p>
<p>After all, what pathetic loser tightwad can&#8217;t afford a 2% increase?  Sure you will get a little bitching and moaning along the way, but nobody is going to revolt over two percent.  It&#8217;s two F&#8217;ing percent, what&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
<p>You can tweak the percentages and time, but you get the gist.  You get your 50%, and the people shut the hell up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just money, though.</p>
<p>Imagine a president standing up and declaring that the Bill of Rights were hereby null and void.  There might be riots in the streets.  It would be too messy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much more sustainable to chip away at rights.  Take a minor right away here, another one there, claim it&#8217;s for people&#8217;s protection and security, and tell them that the rights are being taken away to keep them free.  Give them flags to wave and put singing competitions on television so they don&#8217;t think about it too much.</p>
<p>If done slowly enough, over the course of time, you can turn a free country into a totalitarian police state, and the population will not only go along with it, but they might just cheer you along the way.</p>
<p>Thus, the frog in the boiling pot, frying pan, etc.</p>
<p>We are the &#8220;frogs&#8221;.  Once we get fully acclimated to the loss of a few minor and inconsequential rights (the right to play games online as an example), a few more minor rights will be taken away.  Then a few more.  Then a few more.</p>
<p>There won&#8217;t be a mass outrcry, because the rights of only a small segment of the population will be taken each time.</p>
<p>Then end result will be the same, though.  An almost complete evisceration of civil liberties a/k/a &#8220;boiled&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: dewey</title>
		<link>http://www.casinoguide.com/blogs/gambling/the-war-against-online-gambling-escalates/comment-page-1/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you really have been hitting the cooking frogs metaphor lately.  frying them in a pan, cooking them in a pot.  What&#039;s up with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you really have been hitting the cooking frogs metaphor lately.  frying them in a pan, cooking them in a pot.  What&#8217;s up with that?</p>
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		<title>By: CLM</title>
		<link>http://www.casinoguide.com/blogs/gambling/the-war-against-online-gambling-escalates/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>CLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so stupid it&#039;s beyond words.  How come betting on horses online is perfectly legal?  If Uncle Sam is so worried about not collecting taxes, wouldn&#039;t it be easy for the poker sites to notify the I.R.S. if your winnings hit a certain point?  In horse racing, if you win a bet in excess of $600 where the odds are 300-1 or greater, the online racebook will mail you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so stupid it&#8217;s beyond words.  How come betting on horses online is perfectly legal?  If Uncle Sam is so worried about not collecting taxes, wouldn&#8217;t it be easy for the poker sites to notify the I.R.S. if your winnings hit a certain point?  In horse racing, if you win a bet in excess of $600 where the odds are 300-1 or greater, the online racebook will mail you</p>
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		<title>By: superfarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a simple solution - legalize, regulate and tax. Afterall, it&#039;s the loss of tax revenue that really has the government bent out of shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a simple solution &#8211; legalize, regulate and tax. Afterall, it&#8217;s the loss of tax revenue that really has the government bent out of shape.</p>
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		<title>By: TsT</title>
		<link>http://www.casinoguide.com/blogs/gambling/the-war-against-online-gambling-escalates/comment-page-1/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>TsT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;notsurprising&quot;  you&#039;re blaming Obama? LOL try looking at the Port Security bill  that was signed into law in October of 2006. One of your heroes Bill  Frist pushed it  through congress and  did you see what was attached to that bill? Tacked on quickly at the end was the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006.Thank you for keeping us safe from those evil-doers who want to bet a football  game or play some poker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;notsurprising&#8221;  you&#8217;re blaming Obama? LOL try looking at the Port Security bill  that was signed into law in October of 2006. One of your heroes Bill  Frist pushed it  through congress and  did you see what was attached to that bill? Tacked on quickly at the end was the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006.Thank you for keeping us safe from those evil-doers who want to bet a football  game or play some poker.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
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		<dc:creator>FoolsGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So who is REALLY behind all this animosity?
The &quot;Bricks Casinos&quot; who want to eliminate the upstarts who beat them in the race to becoming a &quot;Clicks Casino&quot; on the internet?
The various politicians whose re-election campaign funds flow from Indian Casinos who don&#039;t want to face any competition at all, present or future, real or imagined?
The Police/Prosecutors/Corrections-Industry who need defendants to move through the various processing lines?
Just as the enforcement of drug smuggling laws favors the entrenched criminal by eliminating upstart competitors, the elimination of online casinos has to be favoring somebody or else it would not be happening!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who is REALLY behind all this animosity?<br />
The &#8220;Bricks Casinos&#8221; who want to eliminate the upstarts who beat them in the race to becoming a &#8220;Clicks Casino&#8221; on the internet?<br />
The various politicians whose re-election campaign funds flow from Indian Casinos who don&#8217;t want to face any competition at all, present or future, real or imagined?<br />
The Police/Prosecutors/Corrections-Industry who need defendants to move through the various processing lines?<br />
Just as the enforcement of drug smuggling laws favors the entrenched criminal by eliminating upstart competitors, the elimination of online casinos has to be favoring somebody or else it would not be happening!!</p>
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		<title>By: par88</title>
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		<dc:creator>par88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The timing of this seizure is awfully suspicious given that Barney Frank&#039;s bill to repeal the ban on online gambling is starting to make its way thru congress...
http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217800632

I doubt the bureaucrats could come up with this seizure idea on their own... my guess is there&#039;s some right wing conservative lobby (same people who ran the &quot;swift boat&quot; ads and got Bush re-elected in 04?) who pushed the feds into this. Maybe they&#039;re trying to get Frank&#039;s bill defeated? Who knows what lengths these people will go to to push their own agendas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timing of this seizure is awfully suspicious given that Barney Frank&#8217;s bill to repeal the ban on online gambling is starting to make its way thru congress&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217800632" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217800632</a></p>
<p>I doubt the bureaucrats could come up with this seizure idea on their own&#8230; my guess is there&#8217;s some right wing conservative lobby (same people who ran the &#8220;swift boat&#8221; ads and got Bush re-elected in 04?) who pushed the feds into this. Maybe they&#8217;re trying to get Frank&#8217;s bill defeated? Who knows what lengths these people will go to to push their own agendas?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post reminded me of the Israeli woman that hid $1 million in her mattress, b/c she didn&#039;t trust the banks, and accidentally threw her mattress out.  I&#039;ve had some of my deposits misplaced as well, I won&#039;t disclose the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post reminded me of the Israeli woman that hid $1 million in her mattress, b/c she didn&#8217;t trust the banks, and accidentally threw her mattress out.  I&#8217;ve had some of my deposits misplaced as well, I won&#8217;t disclose the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to add the poker sites are covering the players for these cash outs.  Money has been &quot;returned&quot; to people&#039;s accounts, accounting-wise, and checks will be re-cut on different processors.   Could those be seized also? Possibly.  But the sites still serving Americans have gotten pretty adept at this at and mouse game.    They&#039;ve certainly had enough practice.

I&#039;m so disgusted, can&#039;t even muster a good rant.  Regulation would solve the problem---and give the big boys their cut, which is what this is all about, ultimately---but who do you think will be the first big online rooms  out of the gate in a US market?    The same bunch of thieving hooligans doing their damndest to run LV into the ground.

You know the global free market---such as it was---worked pretty well, gambling wise, pre UIGEA.  I&#039;d like to go back to it.  Not gonna happen, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to add the poker sites are covering the players for these cash outs.  Money has been &#8220;returned&#8221; to people&#8217;s accounts, accounting-wise, and checks will be re-cut on different processors.   Could those be seized also? Possibly.  But the sites still serving Americans have gotten pretty adept at this at and mouse game.    They&#8217;ve certainly had enough practice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so disgusted, can&#8217;t even muster a good rant.  Regulation would solve the problem&#8212;and give the big boys their cut, which is what this is all about, ultimately&#8212;but who do you think will be the first big online rooms  out of the gate in a US market?    The same bunch of thieving hooligans doing their damndest to run LV into the ground.</p>
<p>You know the global free market&#8212;such as it was&#8212;worked pretty well, gambling wise, pre UIGEA.  I&#8217;d like to go back to it.  Not gonna happen, though.</p>
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		<title>By: notsurprising</title>
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		<dc:creator>notsurprising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Hail the Great Obama!

It is only going to get worse. You can thank the 70 millions idiots who voted for him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Hail the Great Obama!</p>
<p>It is only going to get worse. You can thank the 70 millions idiots who voted for him!</p>
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